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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161243592" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161243592">(Mar 20 2019 at 12:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>We have a steering meeting planned for this Friday and i'd like to discuss the topics a bit beforehand. You can see the <a href="https://hackmd.io/wsHwsi9zR3iq0ZF2SgEq9Q?edit" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/wsHwsi9zR3iq0ZF2SgEq9Q?edit">full list of topic ideas</a> from our planning document. I'm going to pull out some of the things I feel most pressing:</p>
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<li>Project management -- can we make this an explicit role in compiler team? Can we talk about how we've structed things to make it smoother to run meetings, take notes, etc? (nikomatsakis)</li>
<li>Roadmap review -- in particular, do we have enough focus on shorter term compilation time gains? (nikomatsakis)<br>
    - related specific idea: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58465" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58465">Pipelined rustc compilation</a> </li>
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<p>there are a bunch of other things I'd love to talk about in that document, though, so take a look. I pulled out the Project Management question because I think getting a better handle on <em>that</em> side of things (our organizational side) would help us achieve all the other things.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161243667" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161243667">(Mar 20 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>cc <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161261185" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161261185">(Mar 20 2019 at 16:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Something that's been on my mind which intersects project management -- figuring out what (a) are the sets of conversations and tasks that we have need of, and (b) how we can make sure they are happening? </p>
<p>Some examples of things we have processes for:</p>
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<li>I think we need to be triaging new bugs</li>
<li>We need to be tracking regressions</li>
<li>Tracking what we are doing and its overall status (sort of -- this is the role WG are supposed to be playing, I think we're still working out the kinks here)</li>
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<p>Some examples of things we don't have a clear policies for:</p>
<ul>
<li>where do we go with design discussions and tricky questions? (e.g., settling the question of <code>'gcx</code> etc)<br>
    - I don't think we're very effective at this</li>
<li>re-evaluating our overall priorities every so often (this is what I intended the steering meeting for, but we've also come to use it for other things, which seems fine)</li>
<li>triaging and checking on older bugs</li>
<li>(slightly different) helping enthusiastic folks get mentored and growing the team (we're working on this too, obviously, and I have some thoughts here)</li>
</ul>
<p>Maybe this is a good thing? If so, I think I would want to start by doing some kind of survey where we try to gather the <em>sorts of things</em> we might be tracking. </p>
<p>I'll note that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124287">@mw</span> won't be here this week (PTO), which is a bit of a downer. I'd like their input.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446398" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446398">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> any thoughts?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446414" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446414">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I still feel pretty torn :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446479" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446479">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Basically the 3 options I listed above, in condensed form:</p>
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<li>Project Management -- what can we do to make this more of an explicit role, or to share other duties</li>
<li>Review of roadmap and discuss maybe some specific possible projects</li>
<li>Try to list out all the roles, processes, and bits of communication we might need -- so we can later think about how to address them</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446546" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446546">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>So I know I've used the term "Project Manager" in the past</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446551">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I am leaning against the first, although I consider it important, in part because the 3rd seems like a useful .. precursor to it? It's a bit unclear what I even mean by that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446555" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446555">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it might be good to tease out exactly what</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446557" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446557">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>you intend for that role to be</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446573" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446573">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah I was just thinking -- maybe just trying to make more precise what we think we might need</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446581" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446581">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is sort of the same as the 3rd thing but perhaps more narrow in focus</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446589" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446589">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't have a very good definition yet, I can only explain a bit by analogy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446590" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446590">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446603" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446603">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I only now realized you were covering the same ground as I was working towards in my feedback</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446605">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>so okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446663" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446663">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like we both had similar intutions, though I can't quite tell if you are asking me to try and enumerate <em>now</em> what I mean, or thinking that a meeting could be good for figuring that out</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446678">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I just didn't want you to say</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446679">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I lean a bit towards the latter :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446682" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446682">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>"Hey we need a project manager, any volunteers"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446687" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446687">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>without spelling it out more</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446694">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446712" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446712">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>on the topic of roadmap review, I don't know how general that would be either :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446716" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446716">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have some specific concerns I think we are not meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446731">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and I kind of don't know what to do about it at the moment)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446787" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446787">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>(specifically, I think we should be spending some effort working with people who use rustc to make sure we understand their scenarios, or profiling and identifying cases we think we should improve)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446832" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446832">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I also feel like we've got more projects than we really have "bandwidth" for :) in some sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446837" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446837">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I'm loath to go about creating more</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446852">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>well</p>



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<p>identifying potential projects</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446865" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446865">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>is still useful</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446871" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446871">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>as long as we collectively understand</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446878">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>that identification != commitment to follow through</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446884" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446884">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes. one thought I had is just talking about ideas of what we could do, and then worry a bit later about how to find people to be doing it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446951" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446951">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also think that some of the pieces we need -- I'm thinking mostly of the self-profile stuff -- isn't there, so we could talk a bit about that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446974" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446974">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>It took me a little while to appreciate what you did at the start of this topic, spelling out all the things we already do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446976" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446976">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>(i.e., look for technical hurdles)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446978" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446978">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>or need to do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161446998" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161446998">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't consider that a complete list ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447001" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447001">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>you may want to transcribe those two lists into some shared document</p>



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<p>for further brainstorming</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447004" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447004">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447013" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447013">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>good idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447035">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd like to try and get the list as <em>granular</em> as we can to start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447050" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447050">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll make a paper doc I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447055" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447055">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>meaning as fine-grained as possible?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447261" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447261">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, though maybe that's not so important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447266" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447266">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I mean sort of "specific"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447271" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447271">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I figured we can start with general</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447276" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447276">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm mostly imagining things like this: we currently have a "WG lead" concept</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447278" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447278">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it's not very clear what that <em>is</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447282" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447282">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I suspect it can be broken down into a number of roles</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447287">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>which might indeed be shared out, or rotated</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447315" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447315">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g., reporting to the triage meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447323" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447323">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>scribing meetings</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447326" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447326">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>technical mentoring</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447327" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447327">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447343" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447343">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>so i'd like it if we can say (to start) things like "a working needs to report to the triage meeting" -- and then maybe we say "often a lead does items 1, 3, and 6" but ..</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447344" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447344">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447416" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447416">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway I <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-team-tasks-and-roles--AZzR7l3lLxyT5AEO08Blu2kcAg-TZxdEmmzMTD049QvEG4Li" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Compiler-team-tasks-and-roles--AZzR7l3lLxyT5AEO08Blu2kcAg-TZxdEmmzMTD049QvEG4Li">created a paper doc</a>, in the folder for <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1095">@WG-meta</span>, but I have to run to another meeting for a bit :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447436" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447436">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess we'll wing it today :) I am thinking maybe we'll some announcements, then maybe a bit of discussion about the short-term stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447440">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I had a bunch of things I thought about announcing, though now of course I forget what they were :)</p>



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<p>/me hopes they come back</p>



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<p>I don't know about "wing it"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161447658" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161447658">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like there's plenty of meat on the agenda. Or at least seeds for conversations.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161449334" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161449334">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, this is my proposed format.</p>
<p>First, <strong>announcements (5-15min)</strong>. People can make announcements of things they think are cool or interesting. We'll extend to 15min as needed.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I'll make a poll. People can vote and, at the end, we'll choose between:</p>
<ul>
<li>Shorter-term compilation gains: </li>
</ul>
<p>We've got a lot of good projects planned, but I'm concerned that we need to also be sure we are understand the problems people face in everyday compiling. Among other things, I suspect there is still low-hanging fruit to be picked, but also I'm not convinced we have a good picture of what consumes the time when compiling (and it might not even be in the compiler). I'd like us to be able to say "not only are we working on RLS 2.0, but we've made serde 5% faster" (or whatever). Discuss. </p>
<ul>
<li>Needs of the compiler team:</li>
</ul>
<p>Can we try to enumerate what are some of things the compiler team needs to be tracking? What communication is (or <em>should</em>) be happening? I'd like us to be able to come up with a good list of all the things we think <em>should</em> be happening, so that we can compare against our existing processes, and try to ensure they are covered (or adjust the processes as needed).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161449357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161449357">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I have to look into how to make a poll :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161449409" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> QuietMisdreavus <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161449409">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>whoops, had the format wrong &gt;_&gt;</p>



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<p>wrong topic :)</p>



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<p>but thanks!</p>



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<p>yikes, had the format wrong</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161449511" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> QuietMisdreavus <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161449511">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it's <code>/poll</code> to create a poll, and the args to the poll are its title</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161449539" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> QuietMisdreavus <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161449539">(Mar 22 2019 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and now i can't delete it <span aria-label="sweat" class="emoji emoji-1f613" role="img" title="sweat">:sweat:</span>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161479897" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161479897">(Mar 22 2019 at 20:15)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="133692">@QuietMisdreavus</span> there is a topic in #genaral somewhere which has the full syntax out there, including the one that allows adding options with the command</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering%20meeting%202019.03.22%20pre-planning/near/161479910" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nagisa <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/steering.20meeting.202019.2E03.2E22.20pre-planning.html#161479910">(Mar 22 2019 at 20:15)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Zulip.202.2E0" title="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Zulip.202.2E0">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Zulip.202.2E0</a></p>



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<p>right, that's the post i was trying to remember, but i remembered it wrong</p>



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<p><a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Zulip.202.2E0/near/160203167" title="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Zulip.202.2E0/near/160203167">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Zulip.202.2E0/near/160203167</a></p>



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